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Post by barbara on May 2, 2015 4:23:01 GMT
Film test eight:
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1. There are many strong arguments on why a vegetarian lifestyle is morally superior to eating meat. Five years ago I got pretty sick and had to switch diets to veganism...a little stronger than a vegetarian diet as I cannot have any dairy products in addition to no meat. Three years ago I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease and have now lost anything with gluten (people think that means anything with flour but it means so much more than that). People ask me "what can you eat" and the answer is everything else: fruits, vegetables, nuts, berries, rice, beans....I didn't make the switch for ethical reasons but once I made the switch some of my children became fascinated with the meat industry and have also turned to being a vegetarian (I don't think they can give up cheese). They often send me links to YouTube videos on what goes on inside a meat packing plant....and that's what got me into the ethics of being a non-meat eater. You can't watch those videos and not see the cruelty in which we handle those suffering animals. Living animals still feeing and sensing as they are being led to slaughter; being raised in small, tight quarters so they are more tender when consumed. So gross. I've also researched a fruit based diet but can't bring myself to it. Am I horrible person because I eat live plants? Am I morally superior because I don't eat meat but I do eat lettuce? Everyone has to decide what's best for them but I can say I'm at the pout where it's hard for me to go to a regular grocery store anymore and easier to just shop at produce stores.
2. The strongest argument I have against a vegetarian diet is this: it is hard to follow. Although there are more health bars and salad bars today than ever before it is still a hard lifestyle to follow in the US. It is also hard to know which combo is going to give you the nutrients you need because you do have to balance protein and carbs to get it right. But the biggest argument is we live in a country where it's your right to choose.
3. I believe a vegan diet is the most ethical diet. If you don't buy into the whole "cow can feel so don't eat them" then look at the fact that the meat packing industry uses half the water consumption annually as well as more land than a vegan needs to grow their food supply. There is also heavy debate on what animal manure is doing to our water supply; as well as residue of the antibiotics they shoot into the animals. I do listen to Pema Chodron who lectures that killing any sentiment being is wrong and I can argue that plant farming does kill insects and is that the lesser of the evils?
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Post by jlimas2 on May 4, 2015 2:57:52 GMT
Joanna Limas 9877699 The strongest argument for vegetarianism is the notion of humans are omnivores. We do not need to eat meat in order to survive, vegetarianism is a choice. With that being said, a better insight of how animals can suffer and feel pain just as we feel pain allows me to understand that eating a cow is just as bad as eating a puppy. Associating the pain felt in the central nervous system, discussing intelligent and non-intelligent animals, and evoking empathy towards the animals makes the argument very strong. We do not need to kill these animals to survive and as a race we would not want to be killed for another species survival. The strongest arguments against vegetarianism are the health benefits of eating meats in diets. The argument against vegetarianism is that we need to eat meat in order to survive. Emphasizing the needs for humans is a strong argument particularly for the subject of vegetarianism. It makes for a strong argument because the thought of eating meat because we get nutrients that is necessary out of the meat we eat. We are convinced it is for survival so many tend to lack sensitivity when it comes to the animals we eat. The most ethical diet is vegetarianism. We do not need meat to survive and harm other animals for our own purpose of satisfying our wants. The video illustrates the purpose of killing animals is primarily for our own personal satisfaction, which is unethical. Also, separating animals we eat and don’t eat is outlined in the video. However, there are alternative methods people use for meat eating such as choosing cruelty free restaurant or fast food places. The world is evolving to healthier eating options and attempting to make ethical choices for food. Overall, the way many animals are treated and killed is unethical. sites.google.com/a/student.mtsac.edu/joannalimas/week-8 |
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Post by panda243 on May 7, 2015 2:43:55 GMT
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1. The strongest argument in vegetarianism is that animals feel pain and have a soul. This is true, the animals are getting killed in cold blood, the ethical way to do it would be to find another method where they aren’t hanging and squirming in pain until they die.
2. The strongest arguments against vegetarianism is ones morals. Your morals are your personal sense of guidelines to what is good and bad. Especially social morality codes of conduct. If the majority of people in the United States are carnivorous, it’s most likely I am too, that small percentage who choose not to be entered a moral state of self-change for themselves only not for the whole race to accept and put into practice. . Our morals help us reason, it is a psychological rather than physical effect to what we strongly believe in to be reasonable.
3. 3. “As a branch of philosophy, ethics investigates the questions “What is the best way for people to live?” and “What actions are right or wrong in particular circumstances?” In practice, ethics seeks to resolve questions of human morality, by defining concepts such as good and evil, right and wrong, virtue and vice, justice and crime. As a field of intellectual enquiry, moral philosophy also is related to the fields of moral psychology, descriptive ethics, and value theory.” (Wikipedia) As seen in the definition and taken the question into account, the most ethical thing to do would be to eat animals. Although, there are other means of food but we have this other option that was never an alternative way of eating but our primary source that we put into practice today. This diet is ethical in my point of view, as long as the killing of the animals are done in a proper way, I feel good about it.
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Post by mirv42 on May 7, 2015 21:58:25 GMT
Mirvat Mohamed: Week 8 Film Questions Code: 9877699 1. The strongest argument for vegetarianism I believe is the fact that humans can survive without meat. The same nutrients that are obtained through meat can be obtained through other foods, possibly in larger portion sizes however. The way that most animals are slaughtered is very cruel. The stress the animal feels before their death tends to stay in their bodies even after the fact. It is said that we consume these stress hormones, ultimately affecting our stress levels and essentially feeling what these animals felt before their deaths. To add to this, a ridiculous amount of hormones are injected into these animals that we ultimately consume that can elevate the risk of heat disease and a variety of different types of cancer. Humans are considered omnivores anyway, so eating meat is fundamentally unnecessary. 2. The strongest argument against vegetarianism is more of a personal and ethical issue. Bottom line is not necessary for human consumption, except maybe for the fact that we can gain nutrients from meat in smaller portions than the same nutrients that can be obtained through any other non-meat product. This side of the argument I believe becomes more a of personal opinion based on morals because if an individual is convinced meat is essential in one’s diet for whatever reason, then this individuals’ views on whether it is right or wrong to slaughter an animal for his/her nutritional benefit. 3. Ethically speaking, vegetarianism is definitely better on so many levels. It takes a lot more man power to slaughter an animal in the food industry than to simply grow plants and other foods to survive off of. Animals are essential when they are alive because they cultivate healthier environments for us humans. Vegetarianism reduces pollution, “relating to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), chemical and also animal waste material runoff coming from factory farms is actually accountable for much more than 174,000 miles of contaminated streams and rivers” (http://peopleforethicalliving.com/vegan-vegetarian-world/). Not only will it be healthier to lessen the amount of meat consumption, it will also be saving the lives of animals. That’s enough of an ethical reason to see that vegetarianism is just better. sites.google.com/site/week8filmqs/ |
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Post by henry on May 9, 2015 22:20:37 GMT
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1. The strongest arguments for vegetarianism is that animals can feel pain just like humans can and so we shouldn't be eating them and be eating plants and vegetables. Also, some animals help vegetation grow so killing them is destroying vegetation and what's weird is that we can only eat certain animals and if we try to eat a snake or an alligator it comes off as weird but we constantly eat hamburgers made from cows and other meats from different animals. We are actually killing an animal species that could become endangered within the future and yet we still kill and eat them.
2. The strongest argument against vegetarianism is that it's really hard to only eat vegetables and no meat at all. The flavor and sensation from eating meat is something that vegetables cannot fulfill. We as humans actually do need some type of meat to survive and the nutrients in meat cannot be found in vegetables or plants. We've been eating meat all this time anyways and survived so eating more meat shouldn't be a problem.
3. I think vegetarianism is the most ethical but most people cannot go through it because humans need the meat. It's most ethical because we wouldn't be killing any animals and there wouldn't be much endangered species then and the animal population would grow and we as humans would be healthier overall. Furthermore, plants are constantly regrown by animals and we would never run out.
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Post by jlimas2 on May 11, 2015 1:39:25 GMT
"The strongest argument in vegetarianism is that animals feel pain and have a soul. This is true, the animals are getting killed in cold blood, the ethical way to do it would be to find another method where they aren’t hanging and squirming in pain until they die. " Response: I agree with the strongest argument being that animals feel pain and have a soul. Relating animals to our own central nervous system of sensing pain causes us to feel empathetic and know how these animals must feel when slaughtered for meals. There are so many unethical practices in killing animals I also agree we need to find a better way to help not make these animals suffer in the event we do kill them for food. sites.google.com/a/student.mtsac.edu/joannalimas/week-8-response |
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Post by barryallen on May 11, 2015 4:20:39 GMT
Christian Allen Test 8; 9877699 Question 1: The biggest argument for vegetarianism is in a materialistic perspective to avoid causing pain to other living things. This is argued about animals with central nervous systems that can receive these signals from the body. But I wonder if an argument to cancel this out is as simple as removing pain from the equation. If death to an organism is okay as long as it is done "humanely," or without suffering, then is it okay? Question 2: The question to ask is really on killing. Humans justify killing without thinking about it, and not only with animals. Living things take shape as uni-celled or multi-celled organisms. These organisms are classified as alive but killing them for the survival of people is almost unanimously culturally accepted. Bacteria (and maybe viruses, depending on your allotted definition) are living organisms, though our bodies kill them naturally. More than that plants may not have a central nervous system but studies are now showing (as the video link below) that electrical signals in response to stimuli do occur within plants. Our knowledge of the extent of this may be limited so far, but it could then be argued; in order for humans to survive they must kill organisms and/or consume them. So which killing is ethical? (See Question 3) www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/do-plants-respond-to-pain/12151Question 3: Continuing from question 2, which diet is more ethical- the true philosophical answer with the given information is neither are ethical. Simply put killing is killing. In order to survive biologically humans must be responsible for the death of organisms whether the death occurs to multi-celled organisms as animals, or plants. Or uni-celled organisms as bacteria. Regardless of your view killing is killing. If someone can justify killing of one organism then someone can justify killing of any organism- which has been done! It really is a a choice as the video "Why I Don't Eat Faces..." says. Maybe just as religions serve as a purpose to help people live another day, so is diet for people not to feel guilt for the way they survive off the demise of other organisms. www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/when-plants-talk/12150?auto=true |
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Post by jf on May 11, 2015 5:56:56 GMT
Juan Flores Week 8 Code: 9877699 1. I think that vegetarianism is a way of proving that people can live and survive without making other creatures suffer. First, many people argue that animals, as humans, have feelings, and that is wrong at every level. Second, some people argue that if we are eating meat from animals, why do we not eat meat from dogs, cats, dolphins and even humans? The answer is that we know what humans and animals with a high level of consciousness feel, and we would not do it.. We even consider some of them our friends. Third, some people say that eating only plants is enough to have a healthy life, and therefore we could help some animals from getting killed. 2. I think that most of the arguments against it are related to traditions and different cultures. First, many people have the tradition to eat meat for a special occasion or holiday, etc. So, it is hard to stop. Second, some people argue that they do not get all the needed nutrients and vitamins from eating like a vegetarian: they do not feel full. Third, some cultures even eat dogs, cats or anything that can move. When we talk about going against someone's culture and beliefs, chances are we will not be able to make them change their minds. 3. I think that the vegetarian diet is the most ethical. However, I am not able to follow it, because my diet consists in a big amount of macronutrients and micronutrients a day. Plus, I am confused with the vegetarian diet because some people do not eat seafood or eggs, etc. Also, there are some subcategories in vegetarianism such as vegan, etc. sites.google.com/site/phil5byjf/tests |
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Post by lxsander on May 13, 2015 19:02:37 GMT
Film Test Week 8
1. The most valuable argument that people who are for vegetarianism is that they are against pain, brutality, and killing of animals. It said that the animals too suffer and can feel pain like humans. In the process of killing the animals many go through torture because they don’t die instantly. Another reason is that it is not a healthy life style to be eating red meats or meat and that it creates pollution of the animal wastes. Another point is that being vegetarian is healthier than those who eat meat. Overall killing animals and the process of it is cruel.
2. The main rebuttal that people who are against vegetarianism say is that the act is humane and healthful for the human life. Eating meat has been going on for millions of years, so why stop now? Additionally, support is added by saying that producing vegetables causes the same amount of harm to the environment as livestock production. Although being vegetarian is healthy, one can be healthier not being vegetarian by carrying a balanced intake of meat for the necessary vitamins that the human body needs.
3. In my opinion I would be against vegetarianism first of all because I love meat. Secondly I think it’s a humane act since the killing of animals is not specifically meant for torture but for humans to feed off and to live. I think it mostly depends how you view the livestock and the treatment. I don’t evolution of humans or human life would be the population it is now if killing of animals wasn’t present in earlier times because it was one of the resources of food available for survival. If it were something that wasn’t practiced before then I would maybe have a change in opinion.
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Post by swerve on May 16, 2015 23:56:01 GMT
Film Test 8: 9877699
Question 1: The strongest argument for vegeterianism is that humans can survive without eating animals and that animals can feel pain.
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The strongest argument against vegetarianism is that humans are omnivores.
Question 3: I believe eating animals is ethical. If a shark is hungry and sees me swimming, it will invariably attack me to fulfill its hunger needs. If an animal will eat me, I don't see why I wouldn't eat that animal. In addition, sharks eat other animals as well. There are a plethora of animals that are carnivores, so many animals would eat humans given the chance.
The foreign invaders scenario where they came to earth and ate us because we're inferior is irrelevant. Science is prevalent throughout this class, and survival of the fittest could definitely be used here. If we were inferior, then we would not survive. They would breed us and eat us, but that's just how nature works. It's a hard knock life for us.
Animals have a central nervous system to feel pain, but they don't think about that fact while eating their prey. Animals can feel pain, but what we would we do with all of the animals that are alive? They eat too much food and require too many resources. Nature is intended to have animals die which is why natural selection is used. Would we treat animals as equal since we will not kill them? We should further develop their central nervous systems, so they could communicate with us. Let's enroll them in schools to learn, so they could live with us in perfect harmony. This is obviously not feasible.
Imagine this scenario. There is only one spot left on your raft that is floating in the water after a boat crash. There are one hundred puppies floating on a piece of the ship, but there is a human floating on a different remnant of the ship. I would pick to save the one human over the hundred puppies every single time. I guess I would not be accepted into PETA, but that's totally fine with me. It's a dog-eat-dog world as they say. My circle of compassion for animals is very low. I tend to worry about myself and people around before worrying about animals.
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Post by mattmail on May 17, 2015 18:00:34 GMT
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Question 1: What is the strongest arguments for vegetarianism?
- I believe the strongest argument to be the fact that humans are animals. We do not eat other humans because we can connect to the meaning of life to some extent and also imagine the excruciating pain that would be felt if one were to be eaten. We understand how the basics of the nervous system works, we can connect to the feeling therefor would not want to impose the like to another human. Just as we would not eat a dog, at least for the most part it is not deemed as "normal" to do so. Cows just as humans are also animals, with a face and brain. Why not practice the same superstition of sorrow and pain for the cow, as we do with dogs, orangoutangs, and dolphins? A life is a life, no matter how small. We are all made of Atoms, one in the same.
Question 2: What are the strongest arguments against vegetarianism?
- It is very possible for one to argue that, throughout time passed from generation to generation it has been the norm for humans to eat red meat. It is an excellent source of protein, and there is nothing I can think of more fulfilling after a long days work than a nice steak meal and maybe some alcohol.
Question 3: Which diet do you believe is the most ethical?
-Although I do not practice vegetarianism, I would have to say after the studies today I believe that vegetarianism is the most ethical diet. Cows and pigs do have faces, also brains. They eat, sleep, and breath just as humans do. What makes us so special to be able to just eat these poor animals? What if as the video stated, a syndicate of U.F.O.'s come flying down looking for a new world to occupy with tons of food. It would be history repeating itself to an extent. Just as when humans first started to migrate to the west for the gold. There were said to be hundreds of thousands of bison roaming the land. What if they treat the humans as we did those bison? It makes you think.
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Post by Sierra Gomez on May 17, 2015 18:28:37 GMT
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1. Eating a lot of red meat can issue a lot of health risks. It is much more healthy to eat leafy greens as mentioned in the video these leafy greens consist of natural energy that is transmitted from the sun. This is not just any energy. There is basically a large maze that the energies must first infiltrate, and imagine this maze has a rock thats rolling behind the energies. The rock is chasing them like the scene from Indiana Jones where Indy is desperately running ahead of a huge rock threatening to end his life. Only the fastest survive as everything has to be done within a very short amount of time. That is the type of energy that you obtain from eating your leafy greens.
2. Eating red meat once a week has many health benefits. Available in red meat comes the benefits of Vitamins B and D. Along with Iron, Protein, and Zinc. Also BBQ is a tradition in many cultures that have exist for generations. If the Native Americans even indulged in red meat, and they were known to only use what was necessary and never waste anything.
Question 3: Which diet do you believe is the most ethical?
3. I think vegetarianism would be the most ethical diet. If they are alive and breathing, you shouldn't eat it. I felt sorry for those sad looking cows. I think I will try a pescetarian diet. Those little guys don't have faces.
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Post by Perrywinkle on May 18, 2015 1:35:54 GMT
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1. The strongest argument for vegetarianism is the hypothesis that an intelligent extraterrestrial species may exist that is superior to and can eat humans. Would we want them capable of feeling compassion towards lower species? Yes? We should probably do the same. After all, if we can do it, then a superior species should definitely be able to do so.
2. I can think of only one strong argument against vegetarianism. It is to simply not give a shit. What are the chances of a superior species discovering Earth during my lifetime? Obviously, we're not quite sure how that can be answered. However, we seem pretty lonely so far, and it's extremely difficult technologically to approach the speed of light to explore other regions of space. Seriously, it takes a massive amount of energy, and even then, it takes a damn long time to get to other places. Even if we are found by a superior species, it'll probably take a period longer than my lifetime for them to coordinate their forces to reach Earth, conquer it, and start devouring us. So with that, why not enjoy torturing the lower animals on Earth and eating them? What are the chances that aliens will come to eat us? And if they do, then I die. The gamble is probably worth it. The taste of meat until dying as a meal for aliens that may never arrive in my lifetime.
3. Which one do I believe is most ethical? I find it not only ethical but rational to engage in a herbivore diet. It costs much less to raise and eat plants. They also don't feel pain, so they don't suffer when we eat them. That's always nice. But you know what? Meat is a symbol of inequality. You know some people say, "Don't eat red meat. It will kill you." While perhaps medically true, it's a ridiculous statement in the larger context. Starving people in poor countries would take meat any day. Do beliefs matter when you're starving? Vegetarianism as a choice is thus also a symbol of inequality. As Slavenka Drakulic said in one of her books, an American woman wishes to try out natural "real" cosmetics while a Third World woman can only dream of using "real" cream cosmetics. Let's pay our respects to the Third World people. As Chris Rock once said, "if you have a steak, bite the shit out of it!"
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Just being a devil's advocate. I may become vegetarian one day myself.
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Post by jess998 on May 18, 2015 7:27:54 GMT
Week Eight
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1. The strongest arguments for vegetarianism are we have a resistance to eating animals. We have more resistance when they show higher brain functions. When the animals have a larger capacity to feel pain. It is not necessary to eat things with central nervous systems in order to survive we shouldn't be eating animals. It does not matter what animals feel more or less pain they all have a life and we should not eat them.
2.The strongest arguments against vegetarianism are that animals don't have central nervous systems, we've never seen them get killed. Not all animals have high neuro meds, and are less likely to feel pain. Vegetarianism becomes a moral issue.
3. I believe the vegetarian diet is most ethical because we do not need to eat faces in order to survive there is plenty of different foods that can nourish the human body. In fact in many healthy ways as well. Animals are another creation in the world that should not be eaten when it is not required for us to survive. A human wouldn't eat another human just because, so a human shouldn't eat an animal.
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Post by panda243 on May 18, 2015 21:18:17 GMT
Week 8 Examination
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1. The strongest argument in vegetarianism is that animals feel pain and have a soul. This is true, the animals are getting killed in cold blood, the ethical way to do it would be to find another method where they aren’t hanging and squirming in pain until they die.
2. The strongest arguments against vegetarianism is ones morals. Your morals are your personal sense of guidelines to what is good and bad. Especially social morality codes of conduct. If the majority of people in the United States are carnivorous, it’s most likely I am too, that small percentage who choose not to be entered a moral state of self-change for themselves only not for the whole race to accept and put into practice. . Our morals help us reason, it is a psychological rather than physical effect to what we strongly believe in to be reasonable.
3. 3. “As a branch of philosophy, ethics investigates the questions “What is the best way for people to live?” and “What actions are right or wrong in particular circumstances?” In practice, ethics seeks to resolve questions of human morality, by defining concepts such as good and evil, right and wrong, virtue and vice, justice and crime. As a field of intellectual enquiry, moral philosophy also is related to the fields of moral psychology, descriptive ethics, and value theory.” (Wikipedia) As seen in the definition and taken the question into account, the most ethical thing to do would be to eat animals. Although, there are other means of food but we have this other option that was never an alternative way of eating but our primary source that we put into practice today. This diet is ethical in my point of view, as long as the killing of the animals are done in a proper way, I feel good about it.
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