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Post by tjhartwig on May 28, 2015 19:56:41 GMT
Week 8 Film Questions 9877699 Question 1 Some may argue that vegetarianism is something that everyone should abide by. They could argue that it is healthier. Also, that it may be able to help with America’s obesity problem. They may say that it is unfair to animals and morally wrong to kill/ eat them. They could argue that people have no right taking animal’s lives and that we can survive just fine without doing so. Question 2 While all the above points hold very strong points, I beg to differ on this subject. I personally think that it is best for people not to be vegetarians. First of all, it not necessarily “healthier” is vegetarian. People were made with a need to eat meat. There is an essential vitamin for the human diet, vitamin B12, can only be obtained from these living animals. If this is something people need in order to live healthily, then why would it be wrong to avoid this? Animals also provide a source of protein and other very nutritional substances that cannot be obtained from other sources. Therefore, being “herbivore” is, in essence, healthier than restricting one’s diet to plants and other non-living foods. Also, I believe that animals were put on the earth for humans to have control over and eat when needed. I strongly believe that this should be done with care and not with disrespect, however, this are my views. Genesis 1:30, in the bible, states, “And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." And it was so.” These are the beliefs that I stand by and believe that man has dominion over what God has provided. Question 3 I, therefore, believe that a diet that utilizes all available resources is the best and most ethical. (Responsibly) sites.google.com/site/tuckerhartwig/home |
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Post by johnnylovesjune on Jun 1, 2015 2:47:38 GMT
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Post by Noah Yoon on Jun 1, 2015 10:01:08 GMT
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What is the strongest argument for vegetarianism?
The strongest arguments are not the ones that are the most logically sound but the ones that actually persuade people to live their lives a certain way. It doesn't matter if it's the best argument in the world because if people don't use it to inform their decisions then the argument serves no functional purpose. This pertains to vegetarianism because there aren't strong arguments against vegetarianism. Vegetarians have a lower risk for heart disease and some cancers, it more environmentally friendly, it is morally better but none of that matters because meat is cheap, delicious, and convenient.
When I was a child, it was pretty shocking to me when I had gut my first squid. I just got in there with a spoon and gouged its eyes out. Then, I grabbed its beak and ripped its mouth out of its face. Finally, I slipped in a knife, cut its head off, and removed all its organs. What shocked me was that up to that point in my life I never had to think about the gruesome process to obtain the meat I was eating. As a consumer I don't have to think about the suffering animals used to produce my food. When I go to the grocery store all I see is a tasty pork tenderloin on sale for $3.99/lb. I don't have to think about the faces I'm eating so I don't care. Convenience is the strongest argument against vegetarianism because it's the argument under which Americans operate. On a selfish, personal level there is no practical benefit to being a vegetarian. You have to pay more, research a new dietary plan, actually pay attention to the food industry, adapt to new foods, and of course give up on eating meat. Its a huge pain in the ass and what do you get in return? A clean conscious? Who cares about that.
What are the strongest arguments against vegetarianism?
Arguments have been made that vegetarians don't get enough calcium, iron and other nutrients found in meat related products, but that's a poor argument because it's not that vegetarians can't get those nutrients; it's that some vegetarians don't balance their diets properly. It's an obvious to say that a person with stricter dietary restrictions will have a harder time getting all their nutrients, but it isn't unreasonable for a vegetarian to receive all their daily nutritional values with a smartly planned diet.
Which diet do you believe is the most ethical?
Organizations like PETA have done effective job at informing at informing people about the horrible death factory that is the meat industry. It is not ethical whatsoever but humans are capable profound atrocities when we choose not to empathize. The most ethical diet is to roll up and die but since it is impossible to live without consuming life the next most ethical diet is to be vegan. In theory there is nothing wrong with consuming animal products but the way corporations treat mass produced food products is morally disgusting. Cows are milked until they bleed, pigs are being injected with hormones, chickens are fattened with nothing but corn. The most moral thing to do is to eat food that have the lowest level of consciousness.
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Post by moe on Jun 3, 2015 1:07:54 GMT
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1) I think the strongest argument in vegetarianism is that all animals have a soul and that they all have feelings. Animals are just getting killed left to right and sometime it take mins or even hours for a animal to die. Just think if you were to be hung while someone was waiting for you to die. There has to be a better way of doing it then having the animals suffer.
2) The strongest arguments against vegetarianism is someone personal sense of guideline to what is bad or good. If the majority of people are carnivorous then I must be also because that small number who chose not to be entered a moral state of personal change for themselves only not for the whole tace to accept and put into some kind of practice. Morals are all about reason its helps us reason with everything. it makes everything reasonable
3) I think vegetarianism is the most ethical, but there are a lot of people that cannot do it because most people think they need meat to survive. But I think another reason is ( at least for me) there is not a lot if choice or option if someone were to be a vegetation. They are limited to the food that they eat. I think that would be the hardest thing for me to deal with because I like to try new food items but vegetarianism is the most ethical.
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Post by tdheyen on Jun 6, 2015 18:51:11 GMT
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#1: There are many valid points for the argument that vegetarianism is good. One is that is a morally better alternative. Animals are point blank suffering, they have feelings, emotions, and they experience pain. This idea that we are superior to them or that they do not matter in the bigger realm of things is false and this ideology will be the downfall of humans. We are all equal and all deserve the right to inhabit this earth freely. Another argument for vegetarianism is that the protein found in animal products is actually unhealthy for humans. When the protein in animal meat is cooked a substance arises in the animal meat that is know to cause cancer. The American diet is mostly meat and is why we see a lot of problems with our health.
#2: I believe that the strongest arguments against vegetarianism is that our ancestors have been eating meat for many many years. While their diets were not nearly as centered around meat as our diets are today, there were still indications that they did eat meat. Like the Pilgrims on their Thanksgiving feast. Other than that, another argument would be that animal products are a good source of protein, however as I explained in the question above, animal protein is actually not healthy for you.
#3: In regards to ethics I believe that vegetarianism is most likely the most ethical. There's no killing of innocent animals, and humans will be eating things of the earth which can be regrown and what not. Eating a plant based diet is ten times better for our health than eating animal products. Eating a Vegan diet is probably even better for you than anything. That uses absolutely no animal products, which is the healthiest for you.
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Post by jaelku on Jun 7, 2015 4:23:19 GMT
Week 8 Question 1-3
What are the strongest arguments for vegetarianism, what are the strongest arguments against vegetarianism, and which diet do you believe is the most ethical?
The strongest arguments for vegetarianism philosophically includes the idea that animals have a neural network that allows them the capability to feel pain, just as we as humans do, and although we do not consider them as advanced in thinking as us, they are just as capable of pain, fear and sorrow. Many animals know when they are being led to the slaughterhouse, and many more are not treated ethically. Crabs are boiled alive, and some studies have shown they are fully aware and capable of feeling pain when boiled, chickens are hung by their feet and killed, and are capable of feeling pain, other animals are regularly crammed into tiny spaces with floors covered in their own feces, and eat unhealthful foods all day, while being shot up with antibiotics to make sure they don’t die from the lack of health in their living conditions. In the past many humans ate meat because they could not get enough of the vegetables and fruit to live, and to live healthfully with a full amount of protein types needed. However today most of America and the western world is perfectly capable of sustaining a healthy lifestyle off of a vegetarian or vegan diet, yet still choose to consume a enormous amount of animal flesh. This was compared by my professor to the idea from a twilight zone episode in which aliens with a higher form of thinking came to the earth to eat the people here. He then added, that we should consider what it would be like if the aliens cannot understand us, have intelligence far beyond ours, are capable of reasoning and consciousness more advanced than ours, and are perfectly capable of surviving off of food form their own planet. We could then only hope that they would not still choose to eat us, simply because of a large circle of compassion on their part, assuming or knowing we can in fact feel pain and fear at out being killed.
Challenged with the idea of an argument against vegetarianism, it is impossible to find one regarding health, as a vegetarian lifestyle done well is no less healthful than meat and often time s far healthier, and with today’s meat industry, mixed in with the fact that many chemicals concentrate up the food chain, it is less likely to cause disease and cancer as well. Most people have only the argument that it tastes good, and it’s a huge part of culture and tradition worldwide. Yet even if that is their argument, eating meat should not be done as it is now, mindlessly and in massive amounts. It should be done carefully, with the animal, planet, and our health in mind. Throughout history animals were hunted when they could be, usually the weaker animals eating because those where the ones hunters could get, and this would in result cull the herds or flocks and allow the hunter to survive. Today we raise animals in horrible conditions terrible for their health, our health, and the planetary health, for massive consumption although we no longer need it to survive, and in fact at the rate we are eating meat, are probably less likely to survive or have a healthy life. However, the argument can be made towards those who “need” meat, as well as who those who find it unethical (or unhealthy) to eat meat, that there is a possible in between that doesn’t offer to harsh a compromise to either side. Many animals can be farmed free range and sustainably with rotation grazing over renewable resource grasses that are not uprooted when eaten. An animal could live a long, healthful, happy life as it would in nature, with large fields for rabbits, multiple ranges for cows, and large lands for chickens. They would live their lives free range, free of chains and with very few fences. Yet as they near death the animals could be killed and eaten. This is similar to the aliens of the previous example allowing us as humans to live out our lives happily, without knowing they exist, and taking us after we die. This might be a reasonable compromise as the animals can live a happy life and have only one bad day-as we all will and do, and meat eaters can still enjoy their culture and flavor-although it may be at a higher price tag (as logically, it should be, in regards to the externalized costs of meat products today).
In terms of ethics I still do believe it is better to be vegetarian in today’s world, because the previous example is one that is rarely occurring, although growing in popularity and number. Most meat we eat was raised unethically and where killed prematurely after a harsh life, and finding meat that was not raised in such a way might be difficult. SO eating meat in today’s world is not ethical, as well as being unhealthy not only for yourself but for the animal and the planet-making it even more ethically unsound. However I do believe that if eating meat or meat products can come as a result of ethical farming it can be considered an ethical sound compromise.
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Post by amoreno on Jun 7, 2015 8:06:34 GMT
Joanna Limas 9877699 The strongest argument for vegetarianism is the notion of humans are omnivores. We do not need to eat meat in order to survive, vegetarianism is a choice. With that being said, a better insight of how animals can suffer and feel pain just as we feel pain allows me to understand that eating a cow is just as bad as eating a puppy. Associating the pain felt in the central nervous system, discussing intelligent and non-intelligent animals, and evoking empathy towards the animals makes the argument very strong. We do not need to kill these animals to survive and as a race we would not want to be killed for another species survival. The strongest arguments against vegetarianism are the health benefits of eating meats in diets. The argument against vegetarianism is that we need to eat meat in order to survive. Emphasizing the needs for humans is a strong argument particularly for the subject of vegetarianism. It makes for a strong argument because the thought of eating meat because we get nutrients that is necessary out of the meat we eat. We are convinced it is for survival so many tend to lack sensitivity when it comes to the animals we eat. The most ethical diet is vegetarianism. We do not need meat to survive and harm other animals for our own purpose of satisfying our wants. The video illustrates the purpose of killing animals is primarily for our own personal satisfaction, which is unethical. Also, separating animals we eat and don’t eat is outlined in the video. However, there are alternative methods people use for meat eating such as choosing cruelty free restaurant or fast food places. The world is evolving to healthier eating options and attempting to make ethical choices for food. Overall, the way many animals are treated and killed is unethical. sites.google.com/a/student.mtsac.edu/joannalimas/week-8I honestly don't think I've ever thought so much about a vegetarian diet. It seems like you've had the same epiphany as me, It is ethically far better to have a vegetarian diet. I don't think i could commit to a vegetarian lifestyle however I fully support anyone who is. I grew up with a dad who hunts and have always loved fishing as a kid. I was taught how to clean a fish and never thought twice about it's pain or suffering. I know that I definitely couldn't kill a cow though. It seems like the difference between squashing a bug and killing your Dog, I just couldn't do it. I like that you compare killing a cow with killing a puppy because it really illustrates how similar these animals and that their intellect should not be prioritized over their ability to feel pain and suffering. It seems as though we as a society have simply disregarded the lives of select animals for taste preference. I think that when you bring up the argument against a vegetarian diet it simply comes down to knowledge. Yes a diet containing meat is an easy way to get vital nutrients and energy we may need however I think we could easily google supplements that may be needed in a vegetarian diet. Grocery stores are so plentiful that I am sure anyone would have no problem staying healthy with some quick research of a healthy vegetarian diet. The argument is probably a strong one is less fortunate areas but I think that especially in The US and other first world countries alternative nutrients are not an issue. I think that our omnivorous nature is primal and stemmed from a necessity to find a longer lasting form of energy. Since we have learned to harvest just about every plant there is I think that our omnivorous lifestyle is just one of luxurious eating. |
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Post by alectaylorr on Jun 7, 2015 11:12:13 GMT
9877699 Final Exam Questions: (Week 8) 1. What the strongest arguments for vegetarianism? The strongest argument for vegetarianism is the belief that animals feel as much pain as humans were to experience if they were to be slaughtered for food. The actions humans pose on animals to suffice their diet is unnecessary and cruel, when being a vegetarian gives us just as much nutrients and benefits as opposed to eating meat. If humans are essentially omnivores then what need, besides pleasure, is deemed necessary to continue in the slaughtering of these animals. 2. What are the strongest arguments against vegetarianism? The strongest argument against vegetarianism in my opinion is the convenience of having meat always an available option at the majority of dining establishments and markets. It is too easy to order food that contains meat from a fast food, restaurant or any food serving place for that matter as opposed to getting the less favorable vegetarian option. 3. Which diet do you believe is the most ethical? In my opinion, the most ethicial diet would have to be being a vegetarian. I feel that eating meat is a dominance trait that has the been around since meat was introduced, but as the world evolved and aged it is now not a necessary thing to be dominant about but instead be aware that animals feel pain just as much as humans, and we should not be slaughtering innocent animals for our personal preferences. sites.google.com/site/ataylor4130/ |
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Post by amoreno on Jun 8, 2015 6:45:23 GMT
Test 7(week 8) Question 1: The strongest argument for vegetarianism is one of compassion. The argument that if one has a complex central nervous system than we should consider the pain and suffering that may occur before killing or eating it. Because we rarely if ever witness this pain and suffering many people do not even consider the animals life before or after consuming them. The argument arises because as an advanced civilization we have the choice of being vegetarian. We are unlike a lion who hunts and eats antelope from primal instinct to survive. Although the antelope does have a central nervous system and does in fact feel pain, the lion does not have a conscious capacity to make a choice of a vegetarian life nor does it have the resources or biological capability to survive on such a diet. As human beings we can live a far more healthy life and have the available resources in our everyday life to be vegetarian. In an advanced civilization we have grocery stores which make it more than possible to live healthy with the option to stray away from consuming an animal with a complex central nervous system which would otherwise be killed for our consumption. Question 2: The strongest arguments against vegetarianism is that is in out primal nature to consume meat, however we have the mental capacity to overcome that. Another argument is that it is an easy form of energy. This stands as an a solid argument because it does take a little more effort to get these vital nutrients with a vegetarian diet, although with a quick look on the Internet you can easily make yourself knowledgeable on how to easily maintain a healthy intake or nutrients from grocery store products. Question 3: I believe the most ethical diet could be one of a vegetarian lifestyle. I do think that there are drawbacks to both lifestyles however the most human would be the vegetarian diet. Naturally humans are built to be omnivores, it is in our history that we have been hunters and gatherers. The difference now is that people more typically hunt for sport, yes there are exceptions but the majority of consumers don't have the need to hunt. It has come to a point that we are over expending our resources in order to maintain a frivolous lifestyle eating meat for any meal we please and have a large amount of wasted food. The difference between wasted vegetarian food and animal products is that there are far more gallons of water used to feed livestock. One might argue that overpopulation is an issue if we quit the omnivorous lifestyle but the problem only expands with our demand for consumption. sites.google.com/site/anthonymorenoblogger/test-posts |
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