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Post by nestorcantu on Mar 23, 2015 5:13:14 GMT
Week Four Question 1 I think most people do not want to believe in evolution because of the fact that it may be going against everything they believe. Most people are raised within a certain religion and that can greatly influence the way they see what happens in life. I am not uncomfortable with evolution, it does not seem very farfetched and actually seems to explain very well most to all of peoples basic behaviors. It is almost so simple that it can maybe even seem untrue although it is. My reaction was just that "huh" moment, that moment that just makes certain things click. Question 2 Evolution can certainly not explain metaphysical things, quantum mechanics, or astronomy related topics such as space. This is cause evolution is based on man, and animals that have lived thought earths history. Spiritual energies is a completely different level of understanding as well as quantum mechanics and space. Question 3 Eliminative Material put simply is almost like deductive reasoning. When one thing can not solve it this way, then you might try another. It can also be thought of as a maze, where one end is the entrance (problem) and the other the exit (solution). Through every dead end we reroute ourselves and try to take on a different path to end at our exit. Every path is a different way to possibly exit or a way to the solution. I used to think that injuries used to heal magically. As I got older I finally understood that it wasn't magic but my cells gathering to form a scab so that my body does not get infected but helps heal. And when time passed new healthy skin, bone or tissue cells were forming and replacing the lost ones. sites.google.com/site/icanyoucantu
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Post by jf on Mar 23, 2015 7:32:10 GMT
Juan Flores Test 4 Code: 22-2 1. I think that many people resist the theory of evolution by natural selection because it might go against their beliefs. Some of them have believed that their God created this planet and even the world. Others have believed that the universe has been here forever. The truth is that no matter what we believe in, there is always something that does not make any sense. Darwin's theory makes me feel a little uncomfortable. Notice that I say a little because this is the theory that makes more sense to me. However, it goes against my own religion. I have always thought about this, and every time there is a new theory I am willing to hear it. 2. I think that evolution cannot explain some things. For instance, how did the first living thing get in this specific planet? Second, how were the bodies of the ancestors of humans able to adapt the changes throughout the years. And how were they capable to develop a reproductive system? Some people may think that know the answers, but others do not believe them. 3. First, the Greek Gods that people used to believe in are an example of eliminative materialism. They thought that a God had power over the ocean and more. However, thanks to science we can predict weather and more. Second, it was really difficult to think about the magnificent solar system. There were many theories about it, but now we can actually study it. It was crazy to think that our planet, which goes around the sun, spins while the moon goes around it. Third, there has been many theories about babies, Santa Claus, and the tooth fairy. When we were kids, our parents made up many stories about those topics. However, now we know the truth. sites.google.com/site/phil5byjf/tests
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Post by moe on Mar 25, 2015 3:43:42 GMT
Week 4 Test #22-2
1) I think that a large number of people reject the theory of evolution by natural selection because they are afraid to realize what science has provided for us. They don’t want to believe what has been proven because that would mean that they are wrong and how many people you know likes to be wrong. I can tell you my grandmother reject the theory of evolution because she is a religion person and so am I but I am one of many people that like to understand more. But I do feel that people hide behind faith and take for lake of words the easy way out. What makes me uncomfortable about the theory Darwin thought of was that there is a chance of natural selection. That there are people of there that cannot hang in the world or that people may not be fit enough to survive that some people may not be able to reproduce in the world.
2) what do I think that can’t be explain by evolution hmmm that is a hard one I think the biggest thing that can’t be explain by evolution is if there is really a GOD
3) The first example of eliminative materialism would be when I was a kid I got a bump on my tongue I asked my mom what it was and she told me that is was a lie bump and asked me have I told any lies so for a longtime I thought that’s what they meant but I learned that the So-called "lie bumps" are common even if you tell only the truth. These small, harmless bumps go away on their own after a few days it could be a reaction to a food or a minor trauma like biting the tongue. Second example is the thought that the reason why we get sick is because there are demons that live inside us but the bacterial and viral are the cause of getting sick. Last example is when people use to say that when it rained and had ugly weather they would say God is mad and or crying lol but it has nothing to do with god it’s the weather system and what not.
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Post by shaka on Mar 25, 2015 7:00:12 GMT
Code 22-2
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Post by barbara on Mar 25, 2015 18:37:21 GMT
Film Test three: 22-2
1. The belief in natural selection explains evolution from adaptation. Many who believe in an omnipotent designer (God) would have a hard time buying into the theory as it makes their “God” superfluous. Being able to explain the features of organisms by processes that can be explained by biology instead of ascribing them to miracles makes a large sector of our population uncomfortable. If society wants to believe in God versus biology I say let them. Life is hard, often cruel, and if it brings some people peace of mind to believe that “God” is responsible for something I don’t see the harm in it. I myself, however; very much believe in science and like having everything explained in a nice scientific package with a bow made out of natural selection and evolution.
2. I think morality cannot be explained by evolution. Sure we can say that the human race has been conditioned to form opinions of what is right and what is wrong but truly at the beginning of time where did the concept of morality come from? Is it from people’s belief in a God that has laid out a roadmap for our good behavior so we go to heaven in the next life, or does morality go hand-in-hand with the idea that good karma out will be rewarded with good karma in so we behave in a way that we think will reap these rewards?
3. If common understanding of the mind is false and mental states such as belief and desire do not actually exist but can be explained away by math, biology, physics…etc. and we need to adjust our thinking so that everything can be reduced to a biological level then certain events of my life are in question. I tried unsuccessfully to quit drinking for sixteen years…went through rehab, AA, church, cold turkey…everything with no luck. Until one day I put the bottle down and it’s now been sixteen years since I have had a drink. In AA people say that “God did for me what I could not do for myself”. But if I have to switch my thinking from a higher power doing this then biologically did I detox myself from the alcohol and psychologically the obsession to drink that I lived with for sixteen years just vanished? Because if not for the belief that my Higher Power relieved this obsession and I was left to the alternative I’d be drunk by sunset.
I have felt grief that has me doubled over in pain. The kind of grief that you believe in your gut you will not survive. But if grief is not an actual concept and I have to pivot my thinking then what is happening in my brain that makes me experience the pain of loss? Is it neurons in my brain bouncing off different pathways that my body interprets as a painful experience...or is grief simply grief...an actual emotion that does not fall into the category of being explained?
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Post by mrsespi0331 on Mar 25, 2015 19:11:54 GMT
22-2 Question #1: I personally resist the Theory of Evolution. I am not a very religious person, but I do believe in God as being our Creator. At the same time though, I am not too familiar with the Theory of Evolution. To be honest I have never given it much thought because, like I said, I believe in a Creator. Question #2: The Theory of Evolution can not explain everything in life. But I believe, neither can religion. The Theory of Evolution claims to have more evidence than that of someone who argues there is a Creator. But how does the Theory of evolution explain why people believe in a Creator? If we were really just made up from nothing, why do we have a sense that we Did come from something? Question #3: Eliminative materialism helps explain things scientifically. As many have mentioned, when you're thirsty your body knows to get something to drink. Same as when you're hungry or tired. It helps explain why we have certain emotions by the chemical reactions in our bodies. sites.google.com/site/mrsespinosa0331/
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Post by Noah Yoon on Mar 26, 2015 2:37:47 GMT
Q1 It's not easy to throw out everything you thought you believed in then replace it with the very idea that shifted your mind from peaceful equilibrium towards confusing chaos. It's easier to dismiss contradictory concepts than it is to reconcile the difference by comparing evidence to see which idea makes a stronger case for being the truth. Darwin's theory is comforting because it currently provides the strongest concrete explanation for the nature of organic organisms. Mysteries such as why we look a certain way or behave the way we do can now be explained in a logical in way that any person can understand. Also, it isn't transcendent or otherworldly concept. It's visible for anyone to observe and test.
Q2 The benefits of homosexuality regarding evolution has been a recent subject of debate. There has been much speculation but the exact role it plays in aiding reproduction is still a mystery. If evolutionary theory is correct then there must be a reason why homosexuality has survived thousands of years of natural selection. Part of a theory that I like mentions the fact that you don't need have reproduce yourself to pass on your genetic code. So long as a person from your bloodline passes on your genes, like a brother or sister, then a part your genetic code will continue to live on. This may be part of the reason why homosexuality has survived, but it must have some practical benefit to survive generations of only heterosexual or bisexual people reproducing.
Q3 Eliminative materialism works by replacing less precise disciplines by increasing accurate disciplines. As our ability to reduce objects to their base components increases, so too does our ability to explain natural phenomena with greater precision. One example is going from rainmaking rituals to meteorologists predicting weather patterns. Another example is disaster prevention. Instead of having priests praying to appease the gods, geologists now work to analyze and remedy environmental problems. A final example is the replacement of mythological cosmology with physical cosmology. It's no longer a widely spread belief that Helios pulls the sun across the sky. Now we believe in gravitational forces pulling objects around each other.
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Post by swerve on Mar 28, 2015 22:19:39 GMT
Film Test 4: 22-2
Question 1: I accept parts of evolution but not all of it. I can see how many species have evolved over time including humans. Humans have grown in size and stature as well as brain size. If evolution is responsible for consciousness, then another species should have developed human-like consciousness by now. Natural selection is responsible for selecting the traits that are best adapted for the environment at that time. Humans have stunted natural selection with medicine, transportation, farming, and other practices.
Question 2: Evolution still does not explain to me how humans developed from the same ancestors as gorillas and other primates. If one mutation was responsible for how the human species was created, then the same mutation would have had to occur in order to produce a species. The population was a lot lower back then, so the outcome of that mutation occurring at the same time is rare. The two would have had to reproduce with each other and have an offspring. The offspring would have had to also reproduce after that. The offspring would have to be fertile. A male donkey and a female horse create mules, but the mules are often sterile. In the rare occurrence that the mule is fertile, the mule has to reproduce with a purebred horse or donkey. If the human happened to reproduce, the species would have been outcast by rest of the species or killed because they were different. I don't think the species could have survived by itself without the help of the other species. Even if the humans started a new species, then a new species should have been created by now.
Question 3: Eliminative materialism is using science to explain how processes in the world occur. One example of eliminative materialism would be walking in a group and splitting the pole will give you bad luck. Another example would be when the right palm itches it is because the person will be poor, but if the left palm itches, then the person has money on the way. An additional example of eliminative materialism would be Poseidon controlling the sea. The Greeks thought he was responsible for the protection of the sea.
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Post by Joselyn hernandez on Mar 29, 2015 17:16:24 GMT
Week #4 test
1. People find meaning and comfort in their beliefs and the theory of evolution by natural selection essentially destroys those beliefs, thus challenging their egos. Most people fear nihilism. So when you take away something that they've known and relied on for centuries, of course they're not going to be too happy about that. The theory of evolution doesn't make me feel comfortable, or uncomfortable but there is a sense of empowerment that one can gain once learning that theres not some predestined plan for you drawn by some omnipetant being. Also, I like that theres a logical explanation for everything.
2. I must agree with Wallace and say that I don't believe that consciousness can be explained by the theory of evolution.
3. So from my understanding eliminative materialism is taking an un-described phenomena and applying all the levels of science to it, in an attempt to see why something is the way it is. One example I can think of that illustrates this concept is; when I was little, whenever my house creaked or made a strange sound I always blamed it on ghosts. But then I learned that in certain weather conditions wood can either expand or contracts thus, the creaking/ strange sounds. Prior to learning this about wood I had no knowledge about it so I turned to the unrealistic, like ghosts or spirits.
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Post by evelinalove on Mar 30, 2015 4:27:10 GMT
Q1: I believe people do not want to believe in the theory of evolution because they feel as the human race is far more valuable than to be compared to a primates as one is alleged to believe. The belief of being born of a supernatural entities seems to captivate humanities interest and to others logic into how the human race was brought about. Which I believe is noted for more prestige’s appeal on oneself rather than the actual reasoning towards looking at ones upbringing. As we view the animal species and believe we are the far more superior due to our conscience nature and it is much easier to not offend a person by just simply saying we are species created out of this world. Q2: I do not believe that evolution can provide an example for the attraction to colored eyes. How do these colored eyes serve a purpose for the human species? Non-brown eyes are considered a mutation and during Hitler’s reign the majority of Europe was killed if one did not attain Blue colored eyes. With an array of propaganda many people believe in this unnatural beauty of colored to light eyes. So if humanity was forced into looking a certain way how could evolution explain ones attraction to them. Q3: Growing up I was lead to believe I was blessed with such a “lucky” body. Growing up puberty had hit me in all the right places and upon comparison with other females of the same age I was the most appealing in figure. I grew up thinking “wow I am blessed” as most girls did not have what I do during my middle school and high school years. Yet I walk into biology class one day and know the sole purpose of such physique. It of course had to deal with genetics but what was such a down fall was that my only purpose for having such a figure was to be able to bare children and alert the male specimen I was able to. I kept thinking that I had much more to offer by the way I look but was shut down with biology.
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Post by jlimas2 on Mar 30, 2015 4:29:11 GMT
Joanna Limas 22-2 1. I think a large number of people resist the theory of evolution by natural selection because it is all theoretical. Sometimes it can be hard for people to grasp an idea when it has little or no facts. The idea that we adapted specific qualities to advance as a race biologically is a very good argument but is very broad and hard to prove. The pros of Darwin’s theory is that it is a very logical theory using what we know of natural selection and other parts of science to more likely determine a plausible theory of how we evolved. However, since we are limited to fully understand the past being that we weren’t there and didn’t live it, there is little evidence to prove it true. However, the evidence Darwin uses as support is strong. 2. Being that we theoretically evolved from primates out of Africa many millions of years ago, I believe it is hard to explain through evolution how when homo sapiens diverged as a species amongst other species we are the only ones who developed the ability critically think and question “why?”. Why are we the only ones who can do that amongst other species where they’ve taken just as much time to evolve and could have potentially evolved that same trait. 3. One example of eliminative materialism is mental ill people were once perceived as demonically possessed and potentially uncontrollable people. It wasn’t until further understanding of science and psychology that these people were able to be understood as mentally ill. Another is when certain cultures used to do a rain dance in hopes the rain gods will answer and grant rain to the people. Now, with a great understanding of science and how the environment works we can understand how rain occurs scientifically. Lastly, earthquakes used to be thought to be predictable when recognizing “earthquake weather” typically when it would be hot or dry weather. Although, science can now allow us to understand that earthquakes can not be predicted in that manner or any other manner since it occurs deep within earth. sites.google.com/a/student.mtsac.edu/joannalimas/exam-4
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Post by jlimas2 on Mar 30, 2015 4:34:34 GMT
"i think the thing that cannot be explained by evolution is why the sky is blue, or why it rains or why the stars shine. it is useless in explaining why magnets have poles and how electrical charges behave." My Response : I agree and also think that sometimes these theories or facts can be overwhelming to be able to understand about our universe. Most people have to see it to believe it and theories are presumably “just theories”. But sometimes, with more advanced knowledge and ideas, we can use it to our advantage to relate newer and better ideas. sites.google.com/a/student.mtsac.edu/joannalimas/exam-4-1
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Post by lxsander on Mar 30, 2015 4:39:12 GMT
Code: 22-2 Week 4
1) I think there is a large number of people who doubt the theory of evolution because of various reasons, the main one being skepticism. Along with the scientism comes their insufficient knowledge of the theory itself. Many people don’t know the theory completely which makes them believe the reason to everything is due to a higher power and not a scientific explanation.
2) I believe anything that doesn’t involve the theory of evolution cannot be explained the evolution therefore evolution is only an explanation for the conception and the evolution of life itself.
3) One example of eliminative materialism is the fact that one used to think that if you fart, sneeze and burp at the same time that you will blow up so instead you don’t try to do any of them at the same time. Secondly,
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Post by panda243 on Mar 30, 2015 4:39:26 GMT
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Code-22-2
question 1)Like many skeptics people negate the theory of evolution because it sounds too simple. Another reason could be plain ignorance on their behalf. They are not informed or take the time to listen and reason to come to an enlightenment of understanding.
question 2) The theory of evolution is what can not be explained by evolution. Therefore, evolution is mere conception of what is plausible against what they don't want to believe in or go against.
question 3) Three examples of eliminative materialism: 1) Some believe that if you get your feet wet on a rainy day one will get sick, but its that one catches a infection.
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Post by victorvargas on Mar 30, 2015 5:05:33 GMT
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1) The reason I think that a large number of people reject the theory of evolution by natural selection is that they misinterpret the foundations of the theory. Many disagree with natural selection because they believe that the theory in itself goes against the possibility of intelligent design. I feel comfortable with natural selection because it gives me a strong sense of purpose. If natural selection is correct, it means that I am the epitome of genetic successes. Natural selection enforces the idea that I am special and I am a survivor. I find comfort in that.
2) Nearly every aspect of nature, whether it is physical or behavior, can be explained through the theory of evolution. The only thing that cannot be explained in this world is those facts that, we, as humans, exist. To quote the HBO T.V. drama, True Detective, “Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law”. The one thing that has not been explained by science is the moment that humans became intelligent self-aware beings. Why would nature, in its perfect complexity, create an organism that thrives to abuse and destroy it?
3) As a child, I was told by my mother that if I ever had sex with a girl, she would get pregnant no matter what. I understood where my mother was coming from but, after learning about basic sexual education, I realized how inflated that idea was. I rejected previous knowledge about sex and was quickly deterred from sex by the idea of permanent terrifying sexually transmitted diseases. This idea of accepting new information, rejecting previous incorrect information, and applying different fields of science to determine the truth can be referred to as eliminative materialism. This happens all throughout life, whether it’s boys telling each other that they will grow mustaches if they shave their hairless faces every day, or medieval doctors explaining how beneficial bloodletting is.
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